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ianreay
07-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Hello all

Newbie here so please go easy on me.

I am having a problem with my car, about a week ago the engine management light popped up so I read the error codes. P0638 throttle body actuator. Havent been the garage yet it is booked in.

Anyway, 4 days later (today) on my way home from work the DPF light came on, so I took it for a drive in high revs for 25 minutes, it didnt clear.

I was wonder, if the throttle body isnt working and the car is running rich due to lack of oxygen, could this be causing the DPF error? Because the car is running rich, creating more soot?

If someone could please offer me some advice I would be greatful as I am sick of worrying about the problems I have ave with my car.

The car is a 3.0 TDI Quattro on 57 plate (2008)

Thank you.

Guest 2
07-07-2012, 06:11 PM
How high revs did you drive the car at for the dpf? was the coil light on too?

the optimum revs for dpf regen is 2500rpm for about 30 minutes.

ianreay
07-07-2012, 06:19 PM
I changed between 3rd and 4th gear, ranging from around 3k to 4k revs for a good 25 minutes.

It gets motorway driving every day going to work doing around 60mph for about 20 minutes.

Is it possible the dpf light is connected to the throttle body fault code? Is the car ok to drive? It seems to run fine although it doesnt have the acceleration it used to have before the error.

Guest 2
07-07-2012, 06:26 PM
too high revs for regen, too high revs can make the problem worse.

for regen to complete the revs need to be between 2000 and 2500 - this is confirmed by the dpf sticker fitted to my a3.

dont think its connected, its just the filter clogged up and it needs to get rid of the soot before it becomes too clogged and requires a forced regen.

one of our techs will advise on the throttle body as honestly, its way outta my small knowledge base.

ianreay
07-07-2012, 06:43 PM
Will drive to work tomorrow between 2k and 2.5k revs and see what happens. I thought the higher revs would be better.

Thanks for your help and hopefully someone can advise me on the throttle body problem.

Edit : I forgot to mention the coil light was not on.

a8 tech
07-07-2012, 06:57 PM
the throttle body is the cause, sort this out then regen if required

if throttle or egr are open then you will load the dpf up very quickly

ianreay
07-07-2012, 07:31 PM
the throttle body is the cause, sort this out then regen if required

if throttle or egr are open then you will load the dpf up very quickly

Thanks, why would it load the dpf up?

Would the throttle body malfunction cause me to have acceleration problems?

Can someone point me in the direction of a new throttle body, can't find one online.

Roughly what is the price of a throttle body?

ianreay
09-07-2012, 08:11 AM
Does anyone have anymore information about these problems please?

ianreay
10-07-2012, 08:52 PM
Hi all

I have the results of my vag-com scan, can anyone clarify what the error codes mean? Thanks

Edit : Ok So I was able to get my car scanned with a vag-com cable the results are below
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.0 (x64)
Data version: 20111111
Tuesday,10,July,2012,19:52:28:37412
Chassis Type: 8T0
Scan: 01 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 10 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46 47 52
53 55 56 57 77
VIN: WAUZZZ8T58A022238 Mileage: 178700km/111039miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAPA) Labels: 059-907-401-CAP.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 401 F HW: 8K0 907 401
Component: 3.0TDI EDC17 H01 0002
Revision: --H01---
Coding: 0114002C180F0118
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30LTDIA5 A02002
ROD: EV_ECM30LTDIA5.rod
VCID: 2E597F1C710C5AE
2 Faults Found:
5308 - Throttle Body Actuator Bank 1 (J338)
P0638 00 [175] - Implausible Signal
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 11
Mileage: 178564 km
Date: 2012.07.06
Time: 11:27:03
4986 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12)
P161C 00 [047] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 178564 km
Date: 2012.07.06
Time: 11:28:53
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 8K0-907-379.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 N HW: 8K0 907 379 N
Component: ESP8 quattro H03 0210
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 1B4500
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 448D3DB4C780C0E
No fault code found.
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 289 C HW: 8K0 907 289 C
Component: BCM2.01 H38 0253
Revision: 00003002
Coding: 031000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 39735C40B0428D6
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 D HW: 8T0 959 754 D
Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H34 0050
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 C HW: 8K0 905 852 C
Component: ELVAUDIB8 H35 0039
No fault code found.
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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B HW: 8T0 959 760 B
Component: MEM-BFS H09 0043
Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001001049374
Coding: 08217025002444111000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 42813BACDD94CEE
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 8T0-035-7xx-07-H.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 035 729 F HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 4690
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 331KT077515644
Coding: 0005002
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3C7D45547F70B8E
Part No: 8T0 919 609
Component: E0380 BedienteilH08 0100
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 N HW: 8T2 820 043 N
Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H05 0120
Revision: D1000000 Serial number: 0112.11.070213
Coding: 36060000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3D7B4850A46AB16
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 8K0-907-063.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D HW: 8K0 907 063 D
Component: BCM1 1.0 H21 0253
Revision: 05021001 Serial number: 00000000054356
Coding: 260050910014AF010009000300005D5D0F1D03880001014100 0000
Shop #: WSC 00763 210 91830
VCID: 3065616463384CE
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T2 955 119 B HW: 8J2 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: WWS 271007 H11 0040
Coding: 00FD11
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: RLS H04 0002
Coding: 02532C
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 G HW: 8K0 941 531 G
Component: E1 - LDS H07 0070
1 Fault Found:
01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 165
Mileage: 168428 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.18
Time: 12:53:00

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 8T2 035 110 B HW: 8T2 035 110 A
Component: MP3-Changer H42 0380
Revision: 00042002 Serial number: AUZ5ZBG4532141
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2A51730C85E436E
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 8K0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 C HW: 8K0 919 475 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0010
Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 75230732507851
Coding: 100001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 39735C40B0428D6
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 B HW: 8K0 959 655 B
Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H23 0409
Serial number: 0038JD11EB4V
Coding: 30323433363030303030554A305238543053
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02001
ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_AU48.rod
VCID: 3C7D4554B770B8E
Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 6334MSME31510E7DH
Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 6344MSME32024C186
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
Serial number: 6352QSME46224569F
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
Serial number: 6362QSME462431198
Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 63732SME427A496B9
Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 63832SME3D702E433
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 8K0-953-568.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F HW: 8K0 953 568 F
Component: Lenks.Modul H10 0012
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90304GK800090
Coding: 000016
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3D7B4850A46AB16
Component: E221 - MFL H02 0003
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 920 981 B HW: 8T0 920 981 B
Component: KOMBIINSTR. H28 0214
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: 71Y15AUA7
Coding: 2F05010002002600010000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3B7F4648BA7EBF6
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 8T0-907-468.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 F HW: 8T0 907 468 F
Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H07 0084
Revision: EB002032 Serial number: 3200E07A178202
Coding: 000003
Shop #: WSC 00565 210 66245
VCID: 448D3DB4C780C0E
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 HW: 8K0 915 181
Component: J367-BDM H06 0150
No fault code found.
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Address 1E: Media Player 2 (R192) Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 B HW: 4E0 035 785 B
Component: SG ext.Player H15 0700
Revision: 00000000
VCID: 27578A3856F60B6
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels: None
Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 B HW: 8T0 959 760 B
Component: MEM-FS H09 0043
Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001001049315
Coding: 08217025002444111000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 42813BACDD94CEE
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 T HW: 4E0 919 887 M
Component: MNS ECE H50 1030
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 333KZ077526907
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3E794F5C696CAAE
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 8K0-959-793.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 HW: 8K0 959 793
Component: TSG FA H09 0149
Revision: Serial number: Gxf
Coding: 011C022250012201
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: FDFB085064EAF16
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 289 C HW: 8K0 907 289 C
Component: BCM2.01 H38 0253
Revision: 00003002 Serial number: 0107600570
Coding: 011B0682003904C0002000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 39735C40B0428D6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177
Component: DWA-Sensor H02 0030
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H03 1301
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: 8T0-035-223-ASM.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 P HW: 8T0 035 223 A
Component: DSP STD H07 0250
Revision: S2400000
Coding: 010101
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3B7F4648BA7EBF6
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 8K0-959-792.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 HW: 8K0 959 792
Component: TSG BF H09 0149
Revision: Serial number: Tvf
Coding: 011C022250012201
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: FCFD05547FF0F8E
No fault code found.
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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540) Labels: 8K0-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 C HW: 8K0 907 801 C
Component: EPB Audi B8 H03 0040
Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 00000000033519
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2F6762187E06536
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
Part No: 8K0 907 357 A
Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 336F6E68522E776
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q HW: 4F0 035 541 L
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 336KZ077525284
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 2E597F1CB90C5AE
No fault code found.
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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 C HW: 4E0 919 148
Component: R0078 TVhybridTuner 0400
Revision: R0H06000 Serial number: 76300800993402
Coding: 0000203
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 234F9E28E2CEE76
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4F1-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 336 C HW: 4F1 862 335
Component: BTA H10 0960
Revision: 00H10000 Serial number: 00000007547297
Coding: 0010021
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 244D9D34E7C0E0E
No fault code found.
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Does this mean anything to anyone? It certainly doesnt here.