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jonnieboyracer
09-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Well, the subject line says it all, really.

Drove to my parents on Saturday with no problems. Parked on their drive and stayed around an hour. Went out to the car - and no starter action :(

Ignition lights all come on as normal, turning the key sometimes produces a faint "clunk" from somewhere under the bonnet (but not always). VCDS dump below. I have tried clearing the codes on the engine after trying a few basic tests to no avail... I guess it's important to mention that the errors dated 08/04/12 ALL originally had the same date 07/04/12 on them - with the timestamp corresponding to the time I tried to start the car at my parents.

So it seems that "everything" went wrong at the same time. :( Someone, please, any advice? The car is now immobile.

Sunday,08,April,2012,10:44:59:49231
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.1
Data version: 20111209

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Chassis Type: 4L0
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 18 19 34 36 37 42 46 47
4F 52 55 56 61 62 67 6D 6F 72 76 77
VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mileage: 206120km/128077miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4L0 910 401 M HW: 4L0 907 401
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0030
Revision: --H03--- Serial number:
Coding: 0011775
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2C5289298F10174
8 Faults Found:
013093 - Power Supply Terminal 15
P3325 - 002 - Implausible - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.07
Time: 13:43:19
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Voltage: 12.08 V
Temperature: 37.8°C
(no units): 0.0
Bin. Bits: 1
005658 - Glowplug for Cylinder 1 (Q10)
P161A - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11)
P161B - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005660 - Glowplug for Cylinder 3 (Q12)
P161C - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13)
P161D - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005662 - Glowplug for Cylinder 5 (Q15)
P161E - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005663 - Glowplug for Cylinder 6 (Q15)
P161F - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:33:09
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Duty Cycle: 15.0 %
Temperature: 7.2°C
005669 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1625 - 011 - Implausible Message from TCU
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.08
Time: 10:37:22
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 12.08 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Torque: -86.7 Nm
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FS HW: 09D 927 750 FS
Component: AL 750 6A 1000
Revision: 00H64000 Serial number:
Coding: 0000504
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 84028189C700BF4
1 Fault Found:
00258 - Solenoid Valve 1 (N88)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4L0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 4L0 910 517 A HW: 4L0 614 517 A
Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1 0130
Revision: 00H22001
Coding: 0038033
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 285A75399BE83B4
1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 16
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.07
Time: 13:43:22
Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 4096
Count: 8226
Count: 43264

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0220
Revision: 31050601 Serial number: 10601100568242
Coding: 0000147
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E3C0A215224E18C
Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080
Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040
No fault code found.
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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 910 760 HW: 4L0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H01 0100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000896401
Coding: 0078944
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E1CCA81D38520AC
No fault code found.
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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4L0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4L1 910 732 G HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 386JY067523309
Coding: 0002002
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2E568321B90C654
Part No: 4L0 910 609
Component: E0380 BedienteilH02 0060
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 043 HW: 4L0 820 043 F
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH05 0060
Revision: 00---012 Serial number: 00000000081672
Coding: 0003094
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E1CCA81D38520AC
1 Fault Found:
01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 191
Mileage: 200436 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.02.20
Time: 07:48:52
Freeze Frame:
ON

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 K HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H17 0240
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0013121
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316C985DA8327AC
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L2 910 113 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AU716 H08 0080
Coding: 00064792
Shop #: WSC 31414
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090
Coding: 00150059
Shop #: WSC 31414
No fault code found.
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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F HW: 4E0 035 785 B
Component: SG ext.Player H09 0850
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B508A354A1E10C
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4L0-910-655.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 655 B HW: 4L0 959 655
Component: 31 AIRBAG AUDI8RH38 0120
Revision: 05H38000 Serial number: 0037GD06XPY8
Coding: 0013105
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2C5289298F10174
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 90026062990310
Coding: 0102142
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E6C6BB01D17C6D4
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0090
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4L0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 C HW: 4L0 920 980 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H17 0120
Revision: 00700000 Serial number: 5HJ54K1C6
Coding: 2657463
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 23406215E2CED8C
No fault code found.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 105 HW: 4L0 815 071 C
Component: Heizgeraet H07 0060
Revision: 0000000E Serial number: 00000009011043
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E0CAAD193358034
1 Fault Found:
00664 - Fuel gauge
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 HW: 4L0 907 468
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0040
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 0900B06A2281DA
Coding: F5DBBF7F307202
Shop #: WSC 00353 210 91474
VCID: ECD2C929CF90574
2 Faults Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 56
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.07
Time: 13:43:21
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 56
Mileage: 206123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.04.07
Time: 13:43:22

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Address 34: Level Control Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 553 B HW: 4L0 907 553
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC H03 7550
Revision: --H03001 Serial number: 15.1528-0095.2
Coding: 0015510
Shop #: WSC 00029 210 86049
VCID: 295C703D80E202C
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 910 760 HW: 4L0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory FS H01 0100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000896401
Coding: 0074850
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E1CCA81D38520AC
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P HW: 4E0 919 887 D
Component: MNS ECE H48 1060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 399J3067540948
Shop #: WSC 00353 210 91454
VCID: 3B70BA757A7E80C
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4L0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B HW: 4L0 959 793 B
Component: TSG FA H12 0130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: tv
Coding: 0002779
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2F689E25BE066CC
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4L0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 289 D HW: 4L0 907 289 A
Component: Komfortgeraet H05 0020
Revision: 0020 --- Serial number: 01023304790000
Coding: 7348475
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316C985DA8327AC
Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Part No: 4F0 910 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020
No fault code found.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4L0-910-223-BO.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 223 G HW: 4L0 035 223 D
Component: DSP-High AU716 H02 0150
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000021774
Coding: 0000023
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 285A75399BE83B4
No fault code found.
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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 E
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0080
Revision: Serial number: 00000000017905
Coding: 0011101
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: DEB693E1092C354
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4L0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B HW: 4L0 959 792 B
Component: TSG BF H12 0130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 0
Coding: 0002779
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2F689E25BE066CC
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F HW: 4F0 907 357 F
Component: AFS 1 H01 0020
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 295C703D80E202C
Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul links H06 0002
Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH06 0002
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4E0 035 541 P
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 388J2067565582
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316C985DA8327AC
No fault code found.
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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 181 HW: 4L0 915 181
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0530
Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000056589
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: E4C2A10927401F4
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
Component: von VA0 2610203381
Coding: 344630393135313035442056413032363130323033333831
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B HW: 4L0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HL H21 0050
Coding: 0002058
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316C985DA8327AC
No fault code found.
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Address 67: Voice Control Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 S HW: 4E0 035 753 A
Component: SDS 3502 UK H45 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000610240138
Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 3666AB41415C5D4
No fault code found.
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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. Labels: None
Part No SW: 4L0 910 945 HW: 4L0 827 851 B
Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H21 0280
Revision: --H21001 Serial number: E5030000B
Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
VCID: ECD2C929CF90574
Part No: 4L0 910 946
Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H21 0280
No fault code found.
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Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II Labels: 4L0-910-290.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 290 HW: 4L0 907 290
Component: ILM HINTEN 2 H05 0060
Revision: AAH05061 Serial number: 002135981-----
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: E5C4BC0D2C7A66C
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B HW: 4L0 959 794 B
Component: TSG HR H21 0050
Coding: 0002058
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 316C985DA8327AC
No fault code found.
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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 G HW: 4F0 919 283 G
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0060
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 06330629602862
Coding: 0201146
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 285A75399BE83B4
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 M HW: 4E0 862 335
Component: Handyvorb2 H13 1130
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000007585609
Coding: 0010900
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C5289298F10174
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

zollaf
09-04-2012, 01:45 PM
the faint 'clunk' you hear is probably the starter solonoid engaging. it sounds to me that you may have either a flat battery or a failed starter motor.

jonnieboyracer
09-04-2012, 01:47 PM
It's "possible"... but with the long list of errors all occurring at the same time, I have my doubts. The "flat battery" is not possible... firstly - none of the errors indicate functional restriction due to power supply problems, secondly it doesn't work any better with a 100A boost supply connected (I tried in desparation)

The starter motor is possible I guess, but to just suddenly fail? And all the other errors reported for the first time at the same moment?

zollaf
09-04-2012, 01:52 PM
i think i am right when i say no fault code will stop it from turning over. it could be a bad connection from battery to starter, or a bad earth strap. the drop in voltage is more likely responsible for the codes rather than an actual fault.

jonnieboyracer
09-04-2012, 02:02 PM
Please don't take this the wrong way... all input is appreciated ;). But I am sure that "no fault code will stop it from turning over" is not correct. A failed sensor in the gearshift mechanism, for example, would be reported as an error AND could cause the starter inhibitor to operate (in the erroneous belief that the vehicle was attempting to start whilst in 'D').

The soft clunk is accompanied by other hums and buzzes under the bonnet... but they are the routine sounds the Q7 makes when it starts anyway.

I will investigate the starter motor as a possible cause but I remain unconvinced.

Although, obviously, I don't have a Vagcom reading from the day before the problem, my suspicion is that the TCU communications error P1625 is new - and related to the starter not being energised. :(

zollaf
09-04-2012, 02:05 PM
yep, i will give you that :)