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redsearich
10-12-2011, 06:45 PM
Now my A3 is having its first MOT and the warranty has ended its time to unlock some more power.

I am keen on a decent tuning box as I would like to be able to remove it and use it on other cars or sell it later on.

Does anyone have any experiences tuning the VAG CR engines and offer any advice.

Thanks

perky85
10-12-2011, 08:50 PM
This tuning box will clog up your DPF quicker.

Either go for a proper remap or remove dpf which will require remapping anyway.

FlashRemapping
11-12-2011, 11:17 PM
We do a Diesel tuning box and havent seen any problems with DPFs etc with them
We would only fit a tuning box to a common rail diesel engine - have seen very varied results on pd engined cars

http://www.flashremapping.co.uk/v-box/

can easily come down and fit it for you and show you how to adjust it or remove it if the MOT inspector throws a fit - they may become an MOT fail next year - I guess they will just be removed before an MOT

Dave - 07886 368795

perky85
12-12-2011, 08:16 PM
tuning boxes or remaps have or will have no beaing on mot nex year

FlashRemapping
12-12-2011, 08:36 PM
tuning boxes or remaps have or will have no beaing on mot nex year

this is VOSA directive but may not be current - in fact it is my belief that it will be impossible to monitor




4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
(b) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
© Light source and lamp not compatible

4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
(b) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.

4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.

For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.

6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
(b) Illegal engine modification.

(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)

There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:

4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
(b) Wiring deteriorated.
© Damaged or deteriorated insulation

and on the function of airbag and seat belt (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_nkw=seat+belt) pre-tensioner systems:

7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.

7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
(b) Airbag obviously non-operative.

7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.

Originally Posted by VOSA
The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.
We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_nkw=power+steering), electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.
Other items – such as headlamp bulb (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_nkw=headlamp+bulb) and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.
Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.
The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have
‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.
The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts

perky85
14-12-2011, 09:21 PM
I am a tetser a remapping will not be part of the MOT, I have had the printout of the changes.

This cannot be monitored & will cost too much for equipment to bring into MOT.

If the emissions are iffy or engine light on due to remap then it will only fail because of the emissions or the light on & not the remap.

Unfortunately The Germans are pushing for the EU to carry out MOT's the same as theirs, which checks absolutely everything including remapping & takes about 4 hrs to complete!!!

SC03OTT
14-12-2011, 09:27 PM
Part of me thinks an MOT like that wouldn't be a bad idea, given the amount of cars with glaringly obvious defects on the roads.

FlashRemapping
14-12-2011, 11:32 PM
I am a tetser a remapping will not be part of the MOT, I have had the printout of the changes.

This cannot be monitored & will cost too much for equipment to bring into MOT.

If the emissions are iffy or engine light on due to remap then it will only fail because of the emissions or the light on & not the remap.

Unfortunately The Germans are pushing for the EU to carry out MOT's the same as theirs, which checks absolutely everything including remapping & takes about 4 hrs to complete!!!

thanks for clearing that up perky85
I knew it was sort of " on the cards" but not sure if it was going to be enforced
Germans have indeed brought in stricter guidances - not to stop tuning altogether but the aim seems to be to make tuners responsible for keepingg emmisions in check - which is no bad thing

Dave