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geniom
07-07-2011, 10:48 PM
Hi to all, i have a passat cc 2009 and i have swapped my original cluster with a new R line with code 3aa920880.
all work perfectly, but i don't have in cluster menu the voice for COMFORT and LIGHT an SIGHT.

i my research this can be for my electrical unit and my gateway and my comfort unit not perfectly compatible with this version 3aa of cluster.

i have readed the vcds scan in passat cc 2011 and the gw, comfort and electical boardnetz is different this start with 3aa, my actual with 3c8.
i want try to chang this unit but i don't cnow if is really this the problem.

anyone have maked this change???
anyona have swaped the cluster?

Thanks to all.

Geniom

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sterg
02-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Hi geniom i have the same problem with a passat cc 2009 i took cluster 3c8920880H but not appear comfort-convenience menu and not telephones,names on mfi.Do you have find any solution to your problem?

geniom
02-08-2011, 09:26 PM
I have buyed the 3 ecu. confort,bord netz and gw from a passat 3aa but i change this on septembet.
but you have installed a mfa white original for passar cc. what ecu yuo have in your cc? electrical,gateway and confort? you bluetooth is for a white dot? you have enabled the bluetooth on your gw?

sterg
02-08-2011, 10:03 PM
I give a scan with vag-com to see the numbers of the instruments.The swap of the cluster made to a vw dealer with VAS-5052 which read exactly all the parameters of the previous cluster and write to the new.My premium bluetooth is from factory.With old white cluster showed the names,telephones,settings,now with new show only the provider of the mobile phone,the name of the phone and the strenght of the signal but do not anything else,not settings for bluetooth,no names only on rns-510.It is enable the bluetooth on my gw.




s Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4F 52 53
55 56 57 5C 5D 62 65 6C 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E541193

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5C-Lane Maintain. -- Status: OK 0000
5D-Operations -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine ( ) Labels: 06J-907-115-BZB.clb
Part No SW: 06J 906 026 HW: 06J 906 026
Component: MED17.5 2932
Revision: A8H03--- Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0404000318070160
Shop #: WSC 00050 207 90732
VCID: E7D6C3EDAFFD

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 614 109 P HW: 3C0 614 109 P
Component: J104 C4 440 V2 0011
Revision: --025--- Serial number: 00000786345236
Coding: 0000328
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 2B5EFFDDF395

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 AK HW: 5K0 907 044 AK
Component: Climatronic 130 0303
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW46.rod
VCID: 74EC24A16E2B

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000009026742
Coding: E7E68F8B00041A0047978F0017000000000BFB476440016517 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 05124 123 12345
VCID: 336EE7BD2BA5

Part No: 3C8 955 119
Component: Wischer 211008 022 0602
Coding: 00046997
Shop #: WSC 05124

Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 141108 054 0402
Coding: 00471277
Shop #: WSC 05124

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791) Labels: 1T0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 919 475 L HW: 1T0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE PLA H07 0021
Revision: -------- Serial number: 06530830103054
Coding: 300007
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 448CB4617E0B

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250) Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 HW: 3C0 907 376
Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0069
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 29100802220001
Coding: 010180
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: E6C8CEE9A8F7

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 HW: 5N0 959 655
Component: J234__31B VW10 HI 1815
Revision: 19013000 Serial number: 0039BPMZHZRC
Coding: 0012610
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: FAF08A99CC4F

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 3C0-953-549-SW25.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 953 549 AJ HW: 3C0 953 549 AJ
Component: J0527 0025
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 3C5953507CA
Coding: 0200711
Shop #: WSC 00050 207 90732
VCID: 74EC24A16E2B

Part No: 5K0 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H05 0010
Coding: 00000130
Shop #: WSC 00000

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 920 880 H HW: 3C8 920 880 H
Component: KOMBI H02 0207
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140F00
Shop #: WSC 00027 207 67606
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW46.rod
VCID: 3162EDB5D1B9

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 J HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H13 0152
Revision: H13 Serial number: 2900R08A258047
Coding: F9A97F07D0661B009002
Shop #: WSC 00027 207 67606
VCID: 285400D1E263

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 799 H HW: 3C0 959 799 H
Component: IMMO 070 0383
Revision: 00070000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 3E78C68910E7

Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
Component: ELV 027 0380
3C0905861G ELV 027 0380

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B HW: 5N0 035 342 B
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0084
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7667307375
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 26480EE9E877

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H03 3810
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H9321105
Coding: 04050002010000A00000
Shop #: WSC 00050 207 90732
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2F66EBCDC78D

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 L HW: 1K0 959 793 P
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1533
Revision: 71009005 Serial number: 00000679388917
Coding: 0004351
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 4084B8716A13

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 J HW: 5N1 909 148 F
Component: J500__APA-BS KL.069 0502
Revision: 1AH02240 Serial number: 00082590126602
Coding: 0000258
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3972D59509C9

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-799-46.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 959 799 H HW: 3C0 959 799 H
Component: 09 KESSY PQ46 R 070 0231
Revision: 00070000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 00910A0001C60E76360294157000CF0B605C010F240498
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3E78C68910E7

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 3C0-035-456.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 035 456 C HW: 3C8 035 456 C
Component: DSP 10 Kanal 0070
Revision: 00H05001 Serial number: 75805000685504
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 285400D1E263

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J533_) Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 532 HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H13 0152
Revision: -------- Serial number: 2900R08A258047
Coding: 01030100
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: E6C8CEE9A8F7

Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 HW: 6R0 959 591
Component: J245/J878 H04 0054
Coding: 000006

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 L HW: 1K0 959 792 P
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1533
Revision: 71009005 Serial number: 00000504188927
Coding: 0004350
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 4182BD756119

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 5N0-907-801.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 907 801 A HW: 3C8 907 801 A
Component: J540 EPB3 VW-10498 0003
Revision: 009 Serial number: 00000000190427
Coding: 0000057
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 285400D1E263

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0136
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 3493000
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 346CE4A12EAB

Part No: 1K0 941 329
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0003
Coding: 00000053

Part No: 1K0 941 329
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0003
Coding: 00000053

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 D HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H03 3810
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H9321105
Coding: 04050002010000A00000
Shop #: WSC 00050 207 90732
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 2F66EBCDC78D

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner
Cannot be reached

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Address 5C: Lane Maintain. Labels: None
Part No SW: 3C0 907 217 A HW: 4E0 907 217 C
Component: J759 HCA 0130
Revision: 00H07003 Serial number: 300208A28000AE
Coding: 0030002
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 21421DF58159

No fault code found.

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Address 5D: Operations Labels: 3C0-035-151.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 035 151 D HW: 3C0 035 151 D
Component: J738 012 0019
Revision: 00012000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 19323515A909

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 959 703 B HW: 1K0 959 795 Q
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 0309
Revision: 43004101 Serial number: 00000000689713
Coding: 0000152
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3162EDB5D1B9

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 959 799 H HW: 3C0 959 799 H
Component: RDK 0453
Revision: 00070000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 0161211
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3E78C68910E7

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 907 441 HW: 3C8 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0022
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 525PA8-J820830
Coding: 0020008
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: E7D6C3EDAFFD

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 155
Time Indication: 0


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 3C8 959 704 B HW: 1K0 959 794 Q
Component: J388 TUER-SG HR 0309
Revision: 43004101 Serial number: 00000000683620
Coding: 0000152
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 3260E2B9D4BF

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 A HW: 5N0 035 730 A
Component: J412 4100
Revision: 00015000 Serial number: 0000B7A013231
Coding: 0026055
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00000
VCID: 26480EE9E877

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------

geniom
03-08-2011, 07:41 AM
the instrumnt 3C8 920 880 H is an instrument forcar from 8/11/2010 to car 30/5/2011.
your car i perfectfor the instrument pre 8/1/2010.
you need to change the gateway, electrical unit wth a version on the range of your cluster.
My egual problem.
you need the gaeway number:7N0907530
you need the electrical: 3AA937087B (for this change you need to change all connetor from yur last ecu to the new format.
are 90 wire tho change connector and coding. (this is my september work ;) ).
Your confort is ok.

For telephne you need to chage you telefon unit with this: 3C8035730A for the reason in upper

if you dont want chang this ecu or you mantainthis cluster in this mode, o youneed to mounta cluster 3C8 920 870 AX

sterg
03-08-2011, 03:12 PM
Thanks geniom for your info,so many changes,i think i will let the cluster in this mode.Telephones,names appear on rns-510 i have not so big problem.The cluster 3c8920870 ax you said is color mfi?

geniom
03-08-2011, 03:16 PM
No is onli white.
if your proble is only the telephone, change only the ecu of bluetooth. ;)

sterg
03-08-2011, 03:25 PM
you mean with this module 3C8035730A? i have rsap from factory conect with rns-510 and the shark antena.Now this module is plug and play with the same wires i have or may change wires and conector?

geniom
03-08-2011, 03:50 PM
the teory indicate is compatible plug&play, with the ame cabling. need only the vcds reprogrammer.
But for have 100% sure, you need the wire schema. i don't have this schema.

sterg
03-08-2011, 03:56 PM
ok thanks geniom if i deside to change it i will ask the seller for details.

sterg
06-10-2011, 12:29 PM
geniom did you change can getaway and the other things to work mfi correctly?
you said on september would be that.I changed only bluetooth module with 3C8035730B and work fine on mfi phone book.This module is fantastic for rsap and non rsap phones.
The only problem that i have now is for comfort-convenience menu,but a lot of work.Did you do that?

cbx750p
22-11-2011, 03:50 PM
the instrumnt 3C8 920 880 H is an instrument forcar from 8/11/2010 to car 30/5/2011.
your car i perfectfor the instrument pre 8/1/2010.
you need to change the gateway, electrical unit wth a version on the range of your cluster.
My egual problem.
you need the gaeway number:7N0907530
you need the electrical: 3AA937087B (for this change you need to change all connetor from yur last ecu to the new format.
are 90 wire tho change connector and coding. (this is my september work ;) ).
Your confort is ok.

For telephne you need to chage you telefon unit with this: 3C8035730A for the reason in upper

if you dont want chang this ecu or you mantainthis cluster in this mode, o youneed to mounta cluster 3C8 920 870 AX


Hello Geniom,

everybody is looking at you for the feedback . How is your September project to change the Gateway, Convenience Module and the 90 wire connector ?

A lot of work to get the Convenience Menu working on the Passat CC !

I have a 2010 Passat B6 which I changed the colour cluster....same issue with the Convenience menu. Would like to have it if it is possible. My scan....

Chassis Type: 3C0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 36 37 42 44 46 52 53 56 62
6C 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZAP032852

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.LBL
Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000005928185
Coding: E5848F0700041A00470A00000F00000000085C435C00012000 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 336FF0F6522E729

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 C
Component: Wischer 101209 022 0612
Coding: 00046997
Shop #: WSC 12345

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 070110 054 0402
Coding: 00209133
Shop #: WSC 12345

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 3C8 920 880 K HW: 3C8 920 880 K
Component: KOMBI H04 0407
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 161B01
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW46.rod
VCID: 346DF3EA9F20751

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 3C0-907-530.LBL
Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 Q HW: 3C0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H13 0172
Revision: H13 Serial number: 3620P09C140539
Coding: FDA0FF06404602006003
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2F67FC86BE06569

1 Fault Found:
02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 206
Mileage: 50258 km
Time Indication: 0


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 3C0-959-799-46.CLB
Part No SW: 3C0 959 799 H HW: 3C0 959 799 H
Component: 01 KESSY PQ46 R 071 0231
Revision: 00071000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Coding: 00910A0001C60E763004B435F000DF0B00784103243498
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 3E79D1C2696CAF1

Component: Sounder n.mounted

Component: NGS n.mounted

Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

Please feedback.

Thanks

Jimmy
Singapur

ohaue
18-01-2012, 08:33 AM
Hey Jimmy - did you got the conv. menu in instrument working ?
I have same problem - also missing Tire Presure control (RDK)

Could be a solution to swicth back to 3C8 920 880 F

Best regards
Otto

cbx750p
18-01-2012, 04:03 PM
I have leant to live with the beautiful colour cluster with blue needles ( 300kmph ) without the Convenience menu. Experts have explained that the difference in protocol is the reason when the Convenience Menu is missing.

I fitted the same cluster on a 2011 B7 Passat and the Convenience Menu appeared straight away ! Guess the experts are right...and only if you are prepared to spend the time and money to change the CEM ..... learn to live without the additonal display.

ohaue
15-03-2012, 07:23 PM
Just to let every one know..
Just swapped back to 3C8 920 880 F(X) from the 3C0 920 880 K and got all missing menues back and also Tire presure control (RDK) back. The 2 cluster are visual identical.

I'm now a happy man but it was not cheap :-( Could't find the cluster used or new on eBay or anywhere else so I bought the cluster from VW - 630 Euro (823 USD)

Best regards
Otto

geniom
05-05-2012, 01:07 PM
hi to all, excuse me, but i have the hospitale recovery for pancretite and my work is posticipate.
now i'm fine but i need the time for make the swap of the CU ;)

cbx750p
05-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Welcome back ! So glad to hear from you again and happy to hear that all is well !

Looking forward to your investigation.....:arms:

geniom
05-05-2012, 07:48 PM
cbx750p i can't reply to your pm, can you send the link in pm, for the wiring?
thanks

geniom
07-05-2012, 01:18 PM
etka 4 don't have the wire skema for passat CC with 3aa electrical unit :(

geniom
07-05-2012, 01:55 PM
i need to find the electrical wire diagram of the CU 3aa937087b,
any idea?

cbx750p
07-05-2012, 04:36 PM
We are talking about the Central Electric Module ? J519 ? You can work out the all the pin assignment of the 3 T52 connectors by typing search for J519 . The various modules connected to J519 is individually shown. Maybe this is the new schematic system or VW may not have completed the wiring schematics which is quite unlikely........

Jimmy

geniom
10-05-2012, 09:03 AM
ok i have writed all cable with the skema and i find a little problem.
VW have modified the central electric in new passat wit separate the starter CU from 09.
now the 09 is electrical and the starter CU is another and have added another CU from the KEY starter.
thi is more complicated and for have all functionant is needed sobstituite all of this CU with the new and make all the new cables.
is impossible with a litthe budget.
i'm find the solution for this problem, sobstituite the cluster with another with G o F final. this cluster are identical at the 3aa, but work in all passat CC o 3C and all menu is visible and functionant.
Now i must find only this cluster, is not easy, in ebay is not present And in VW dealer is 800€ :(

cbx750p
11-05-2012, 01:05 AM
So sad that your proposed upgrading of the Gateway, Central Electric Module cannot be done due to technical and cost reasons.

Have to live with the missing Convenience Menu or change the cluster to the "3C8920880G" part number.

Do you think the 3C8920880H version would work as well ? I may be able to get this part number.

geniom
11-05-2012, 09:05 AM
no, the 3C8920880H is new version and Confort and elektrical is not shown.

the G is the correct version for DIESEL engine of F for the GASOLINE engine.

If you find one of this can tell me where? i don't find this at the moment.

cbx750p
16-05-2012, 12:20 AM
Got a quotation from a German supplier at Euro 650 nett ( w/o VAT )

Also got news from my supplier that he has a software that can alter the cluster to provide the missing Convenience Menu. Technically downgrading the software inside the cluster to the "F" version. Problem is, I have to send the cluster back to Europe....

geniom
16-05-2012, 09:43 AM
if is possible to downgrade the formware and the problem is ONLY this firmware i need know how i can reprogramer the cluster and were i can find the firmware for this cluster...
:confused:

cbx750p
16-05-2012, 10:50 AM
If you have the tool to copy the firmware from the "F" cluster, perhaps you can "borrow" a vehicle with the "F" cluster and copy it ?

geniom
16-05-2012, 10:53 AM
no i don't have any tools at the moment.
i need to know what tools is needed and where i can find the firmware files ready to instal in cluster...

cbx750p
16-05-2012, 10:54 AM
Oh suchss....I was hoping you have the tool so I can "borrow" from you :-)

I think I will probably send my cluster back to Europe !

tibo7
28-03-2013, 12:50 PM
Any news of downgrading the firmware, 'cbx750p'?
I have the same problem as you.
The instrument cluster you have 3C8920880K it is for gasoline or diesel?

cbx750p
28-03-2013, 02:08 PM
Oh...forgot to update this thread. I also changed the whole instrument cluster to the "F" version. Money spent but it is worth it I guess.....nice to see the Convenience Menu working again on my Colour Screen..... my K cluster is still with me all wrapped up looking for a new owner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtw8aLfyKEs

tibo7
29-03-2013, 04:57 AM
Nice looking, indeed. This update bring new functions ?
I need a G cluster, for diesel, but now it is very hard to find this revision.
Regarding your K cluster, eBay-it.

cbx750p
09-09-2013, 03:16 PM
Further to the colour cluster, I went on to install the Highline Tire Pressure Monitoring System TPMS but that system when installed, require me to have a higher range colour cluster....as such, my "F" cluster cannot support the TPMS High. Had to fit the back the later cluster and do without the Convenience Menu. Afterall, the CM is very seldom used.....but the TPMS is much more in use everytime. This is the link (http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.sg/2013/08/retrofitting-tpms-high-on-2010-passat-b6.html?m=1) to my project.

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Then....I went another step further.....I got the Easy Boot option installed....this is the link (http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.sg/2013/09/passat-easy-boot-open-retrofitted-on-b6.html?m=1) of my project.

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Now......with the new Convenience Module installed, my "L" cluster once had the missing Convenience Menu have every back hoping and working !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJeIvRcLWV8

So....the trick is to replace the Convenience Module #46 to the newest module. It will work.

Now I am a happy happy Passat B6 owner with full spec cluster etc !