A6 2.0 diesel upgrade

[chunganita]

Hi,

Some advise needed, the intention has always been to re-map or re-tune my diesel after a period of getting used to it, but after being left for dead by a Ford Focus at the lights yesterday :o I think it has to be done sooner rather than later :(

So what are my options? I've seen a group buy for some re-mapping thing, seems to have one person raving about it, but I'd need more than a couple of recommendations to be convinced as it could be his mate or whatever.

I apologies in advance if this has been posted before, I don't think I'm the only one who'd wanted to upgrade.


Cheers

[JimC64]

Do it:approve:
I did on my 2.0 tdi and upgraded from 14o bhp to 176 bhp.....doesn't cost the earth, maybe around the £300 - £400 mark and is well worth it. The car is much more responsive in all gears.
The upside is that when driven normally you can actually benefit from improved fuel economy to anwhere between 10% - 15%:beerchug:

[chunganita]

I concur about the upgrade Jim, but which one to go for? What's the differentiating factor between them?
Get the current one that's on offer as a group buy here or one that seems to be good as 'recommended by Quentin Wilson' the Viezu one?
http://www.flashremapping.co.uk/cms/default.asp?iId=FGMJHM

Apparently I'll have to use the v-box as the Audi ecu is protected? Either way, all increase figures seem to be the same, it's just down to choosing the right product/supplier and getting the best price.

[JimC64]

unless the protection scenario is a new thing? I don't know anything about it!
I had mine done by Audi, which did cost me to be fair but is a remap and works well:approve:
I've had a Ford Mondeo ST Tdci remapped from 155 - 195bhp and a Saab 93 1.9 Tid rom 150 - 180bhp by Seditas of Ayr.
Personally speaking ( and I could be wrong ) I'm not too confident about someone appearing at my door with a laptop to tune my ££££££ pride and joy.....but as I said, thats just me.
You could always try doing a google of local remapping specialists in your area?
better still, if you have any contacts at Audi dealer ask them who they use and see if you can get the info that way?

Good luck

[Issac Hunt]

ECU protection depends on the age of your car. Even if its a protected it can remapped by removing it from the car (not difficult)

Basic remaps are all fairly similiar. Choosing one from any of the big tuners should not give any issues. Depends where in the world you are and how far you want to travel.

You can always buy it mail order via a handheld STS stype unit (as long as your ECU isnt the latest protected version)

Have a search through the forum for various threads and recommendations, and check out the site sponsors, many of them off remaps............

[chunganita]

Ah I see, the car is a 2007 model, after making some enquiries I've been asked if it has a DPF?! I now know what it is and will look in the manual tonight, been offered the option to switch off the dash lights for this if required, doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Will probably go with the link I posted as I got a decent enough price and he's been recommend and will come to my place of work to do the re-mapping, (I know I'm a lazy so and so!) :biglaugh:

Will post more when I've had it done.

[Issac Hunt]

Ah I see, the car is a 2007 model, after making some enquiries I've been asked if it has a DPF?! I now know what it is and will look in the manual tonight, been offered the option to switch off the dash lights for this if required, doesn't seem like a good idea to me.


DPF depends on the car, most PD140's didnt have it but the PD170 generally did. but check anyways. Mapping it to switch off any warning light (if you have DPF) is a bodge and something I'd stay away from personally.

[pencil77]

Not sure if its available for your car but we had a Superchips Bluefin fitted to our old car 2005 Golf 2.0 TDI 140, Put it up to 175bhp and what a difference! engine was more economical generally, and you could feel the turbo kicking in earlier and much harder.
The bluefin also had the advantage that you just plug it in to the diagnostics port to remove it whenever you want (i.e garage visits, wife driving etc!)

[chunganita]

Just to let you know, had the re-map done yesterday by flashremapping, Dave came to the office and plugged in outside, all in all took about an hour.
Went for a drive with him after it was done, have to be honest, didn't really notice much of a difference straight away, apparently I won't for a few days until the eeprom sorts itself out or something. Got a full tank at the mo and was told to ignore MPG's for this tank, I'll notice the slight increase in the following tank?!

Anyway, on the way back from Newbury last night, experienced some decent mid range torque, pulled nicely when I had to overtake, pull away from standing is still a bit iffy so we'll see.

Not sure if it's in my head but the engine seems to sound slightly noisier, anyone else experience that or is it just me?
Also seemed to tick over slightly higher than usual this morning, around the 1000rpm mark whereas before I'm sure it was between 800-900rpm?

Dunno, maybe I'm just paranoid and imagining things or maybe it does need to settle down?

Apparently I'm up to 180bhp, but other than a rolling road there's no way to check right?

Next up, tints in December...

[FlashRemapping]

Hi Chung

Your car did not have a DPF very few 140 BHp models did on 07 plates but a few did - the 170Bhp versions mainly did.

Tuning protection on Audi diesels is only found after March 2009 so no problem with yours. As mentioned earlier on this thread decent tuning companies will have a way through that anyway but it does require removal of the ECU from the vehicle and opening it up. Some customers do not want this and an option for common rail diesel engines is a digital tuning box.

Your car being an automatic will not have such a feeling of bigger Bhp as a manual but as this is a Viezu file with tried and tested parameters it will be definately +40 Bhp. As you say its easier to notice the added Torque.

Certain ECUs have longer adaptation times, this Bosch EDC16 is not the worst culprit ( I believe the MSD80 as found in a BMW 335i is ) and generally 90% ish of the benefits are immediate - Its only that there is a cache memory which cannot be manually cleared and will filter in over the next 300-500 miles which is what I meant by saying fuel improvements can give mixed results over the next tank of fuel.

Remapping a TDI engine does not need fueling alterations below 1500Rpm so any changes in idle speed is due to fuel enrichment on these cold morning we have just been experiencing.

But as I said if you feel its not quite right in the next month or so we can always revisit the file and make further tweeks as required

Dave

[chunganita]

Aha!! Hello Dave :You_Rock_

Haven't been able to post until now, but......happy days!

The niggly bits post remap seem to have all but gone, tickover recently in the cold weather has been fine and changedown throught he gears when slowing seems to have sorted itself out, it changes down smoothly now whereas it was hanging on each gear before.
Engine noise still the same but I think that's in my head :aargh4:

Haven't checked about the DPF yet, will do soon. Some chap on another forum with same car but in avant form says he has and has told me how to check.

Thanks for your post Dave and all the information you provided suring the process. All-in-all, everything you say and said is true and correct, there's not many honest traders around but I can definately say that you're one of the few :beerchug: sorry for being so sceptical :o

Been on a few motorway trips since it's settled down and pulling away to around 80mph is a breeze, the extra BHP is defiantely required in such a heavy car. Not done much from standstill, not really into that but I'm sure it'll be quicker than standard.

The guy who recommended you said you'd come out to fix any issues afterwards and that still rings true, but I'm happy with what you did first time round no need for a revisit here.

Thanks again

A very happy customer.

[jessy808]

hi lads, im struggling with this remapping thing ..
im in the south of ireland, so its not as easy to get it done here...
my question is about the STS self install (shark) system.. how good/ reliable are they... and with no real knowledge of electrics on cars how easy would it be to install !!!

would i get value for money with this type or am i better off looking around harder


Regards Dec

[FlashRemapping]

Hi Dec

if you want a self tune gizmo we do one that is made by industry leaders
Alientec called a v-switch it stores 1 origional and 2 modified maps for your car. see www.flashremapping.co.uk (http://www.flashremapping.co.uk) for more details on v-switch

pretty simple to use cost is £469 inclusive of the two modified files

if you want a remap you can try woodford diagnostics 00353494362877
they are also a viezu dealer in Cavan hopefully not too far from you

regards
Dave
FlashRemapping

[dandam]

hi lads, im struggling with this remapping thing ..
im in the south of ireland, so its not as easy to get it done here...
my question is about the STS self install (shark) system.. how good/ reliable are they... and with no real knowledge of electrics on cars how easy would it be to install !!!

would i get value for money with this type or am i better off looking around harder


Regards Dec

If you are willing to travel to Cork try giving Alan at Autowerks a ring. His number is 021 463 6057, he might be able to help or point you in the right direction.

[jessy808]

Thanks dave

thanks dandam

i will try both them numbers to see whats on offer and what price....

any tips or hints on what i should be asking them or they should be asking me ?

in relation to the repmapping


thanks again

Dec
:beerchug:Cheers just sorry its not a real one for all your help

[jessy808]

ops i mean remapping not repmapping .... im up to that level yet he he

[FlashRemapping]

As they are a Viezu dealer you can be assured the file will be of the highest quality therfore all you need to be concerned about is that your requirements are relayed to the file writer correctly

I always like to understand what the customer is looking for
No point giving someone an out and out performance remap when they are looking for something else - should find out the sort of milage you are covering and in what type of driving conditions and what you are looking for - the rest is a pretty easy job as far as reading and writing the file to your car

Dave

[dandam]

How much power can you put through a multitronic 'box ? I have done the remap (Viezu in Bromsgrove) which I have had now for 20k miles and 12 months and am delighted with, just thinking about more power (intercooler / turbo mods) but not sure how strong the multitronic box is in terms of power output.
:1zhelp:

[FlashRemapping]

To be honest I have not remapped any audis with that box with extra mods
However its the same box as that I had on my a4 2.5tdi which while it diodnt have that much extra bhp the torque figures are considerably higher
so I think it will be ok for quite a bit more yet

Dave

[dandam]

Thanks Dave, it's handy to know :beerchug: