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tiching99
17-08-2010, 09:22 PM
Hi Guys,

Searched the forum but couldn't find a similar thread ... hope i've not duplicated anything ...

anyways, I stupidly used the "scouring side" of a normal kitchen sponge (see, at least I'm honest! :D) to clean some bird poo off my bonnet. Now the spot looks "dull" ... as if i've rubbed off the lacquer layer so it now doesnt look glossy. Also there are really tiny scour marks.

Question: Will T-Cut fix this? I understand T-Cut is for scratches and I don't know if this qualifies as a scratch ... I also don't know if T-Cut will fix the lacquer?

Pics below, thanks in advance!

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onzarob
17-08-2010, 11:00 PM
opps you would of been better of leaving the bird poo on there. I suggest getting hold of a professional detailer or painter to advise the way forward. there maybe enough lacquer left, but you really need advice as another wrong move and you may end up paying for a complete panel respray

Crasher
17-08-2010, 11:28 PM
It may respond to some heavy polishing using professional products such as Farecla G3 and then G10 using a polishing mop but I suspect it will require re-spaying to make it perfect as you will probably have gone right through the lacquer. We use a products not dissimilar to what you used (Scotch Brite red and green) to prepare sound paint for re-coating.

Eshrules
18-08-2010, 12:35 PM
T-cut should be banned from general sale, it's misleading and too many people use it without realising what it does to paint.

As for the scouring pad incident, Crasher is on the money here. You'll be lucky to rescue that with a machine, it looks as though you've taken the lacquer right off.

Respray, imho.

JON76
19-08-2010, 12:56 PM
Don't try to correct it with T-Cut. I used some T-Cut scratch remover not long ago on some minor scratches and the T-Cut itself left dull patches in the paintwork.

I have managed to mask these using Meguiars Deep Crystal Step 1 followed by a polish with Autoglym Super Resin Polish - although I don't think the problem with mine was as bad and you should be careful about putting anything abrasive on it (SRP is mildly abrasive I think. T-Cut even more so).

Good advice though about getting it done professionally - by the time I had bought the T-Cut, applicator pads, buffing cloths and then the Meguiars and Autoglym to correct my own mistakes I had spent a fair bit of money that could have gone towards getting it done properly.

tiching99
19-08-2010, 07:08 PM
Omg! Gotta get it done professionally? What a costly mistake this is turning out to be!

Thanks for the advice though, chaps. I think I may try some of the polishing products mentioned above first ... if it really doesn't work then I guess I'll have a paint shop have a look at it. Any idea (roughly) how much a respray would cost?

I'll post some pics once I've polished it ...

Toonmania
20-08-2010, 07:42 PM
you might get someone to do it for you for between £100 to £150 if a cash deal, or if you want a receipt then you could be looking upto £250 Sorry :(

redshed
24-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Right, don't panic, this isn't necessarily going to cost you and arm and a leg, you just need to be brave and careful in equal measure...

Get some P2000 or finer wet'n'dry and use loads of soapy water on a totally clean panel to rub down your scoured paintwork. Just lightly, to create a smooth even finish. Then get some compound, and (by hand for an area this small) rub it in until a glass like paint finish is restored. This should all take no more than half an hour, I have done this exact thing on my Mum's Merc SLK after she used a scothbrite pad to get rid of bird poo:1zhelp:

tiching99
25-09-2010, 01:17 PM
Right, don't panic, this isn't necessarily going to cost you and arm and a leg, you just need to be brave and careful in equal measure...

Get some P2000 or finer wet'n'dry and use loads of soapy water on a totally clean panel to rub down your scoured paintwork. Just lightly, to create a smooth even finish. Then get some compound, and (by hand for an area this small) rub it in until a glass like paint finish is restored. This should all take no more than half an hour, I have done this exact thing on my Mum's Merc SLK after she used a scothbrite pad to get rid of bird poo:1zhelp:

Hope at last! Lol ...

But seriously - Google tells me that P2000 wet&dry is a (sort of) sandpaper? It appears counter-intuitive to me to use this to fix a problem that was caused by a scourer in the first place?

... and what do you mean specifically by "some compound"?

Thanks in advance!

Crasher
25-09-2010, 11:21 PM
Google “color sanding” (yes the Yank spelling) and you will see what we do. You start with a gun applied finish and then block it back with 800 to de-nib and then flat that back with 1200 and then 2000 before buffing with Farelcla G3 and then G10 followed by 3M Imperial Machine Glaze and then 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, well my preferred route to a ten foot deep shine anyway.

tiching99
29-09-2010, 06:26 PM
Google “color sanding” (yes the Yank spelling) and you will see what we do. You start with a gun applied finish and then block it back with 800 to de-nib and then flat that back with 1200 and then 2000 before buffing with Farelcla G3 and then G10 followed by 3M Imperial Machine Glaze and then 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, well my preferred route to a ten foot deep shine anyway.


Yowza - that sounds like a job thats beyond my car diy pay grade! Thanks for the reply though.

Does anyone know what "compound" redshed was referring to? Sounds like a simpler option.

tiching99
26-10-2010, 12:50 AM
Right, don't panic, this isn't necessarily going to cost you and arm and a leg, you just need to be brave and careful in equal measure...

Get some P2000 or finer wet'n'dry and use loads of soapy water on a totally clean panel to rub down your scoured paintwork. Just lightly, to create a smooth even finish. Then get some compound, and (by hand for an area this small) rub it in until a glass like paint finish is restored. This should all take no more than half an hour, I have done this exact thing on my Mum's Merc SLK after she used a scothbrite pad to get rid of bird poo:1zhelp:


So ... anyone know what redshed means by some "compound"? Its not clay is it?

Jamiem
26-10-2010, 08:36 AM
It's a shame your not closer or I could sort it for you. It doesn't look that bad tbh, but I wouldnt attempt any kind of wet sanding unless you've done it before. Do you ever come down to Kent?

Crasher
26-10-2010, 08:51 AM
Compound would mean a product such as Farécla G3 and G10.

http://www.farecla.com (http://www.farecla.com/)

tiching99
26-10-2010, 05:01 PM
It's a shame your not closer or I could sort it for you. It doesn't look that bad tbh, but I wouldnt attempt any kind of wet sanding unless you've done it before. Do you ever come down to Kent?

Thats awfully generous of you, but unfortunately Kent is a little far for me! Thanks for offering anyway! I think I'm inclined to take it to a professional and see what I get quoted - if it's anything above, oh i dunno ... £50, then, well ... I'll cross that bridge when I come to it!


Compound would mean a product such as Farécla G3 and G10.

http://www.farecla.com (http://www.farecla.com/)


Thanks, I'll have a look.